HarryPotter177 wrote:
My Apple Watch Series 8 regularly recorded my vox2 max at 28 29 or 30. I walk daily, and lift/resistant bands
VO2 MAX is a measure of the maximum rate of oxygen volume your body can consume and utilize (ml/kg/min). The better one's cardio fitness, the higher this capacity will be. VO2 MAX is measured on a treadmill or stationary bike with a mask to track oxygen consumption rates starting from a base level and ramping up the level of effort until the maximum level is reached. At that maximum level, the heart rate is close to 90% or 95% of the maximum for one's age and the subject will reach the point of being close to passing out. I have done this on a treadmill in a clinic and it's an exhausting (and unpleasant) process to properly measure VO2 MAX.
A smart watch tries to approximate this using ONLY the user's pulse (heart rate) and speed (pace = distance divided by time) during an outdoor walk or run. Depending on the individual, this approximation may or may not work well. The algorithm that tries to discern VO2 MAX from just those three simple metrics is better suited to some individuals' physiology than others. Over time, smart watch makers may refine the algorithm used, so changes may be seen from that refinement when the algorithm is updated.
If one is saying that the old algorithm was better than the new one, well, one needs to provide some evidence of that. Which no one here has so far. Everyone likes better fitness numbers but it is what it is.
There is nothing to "calibrate" for a smart watch calculation. It just takes heart rate, distance covered, and time and calculates an approximate VO2 MAX.
https://www.harvardhealth.org/healthy-aging-and-longevity/vo2-max-what-is-it-and-how-can-you-improve-it
To improve one's VO2 MAX, usually one has to embark on a focused training regimen that includes interval training and brief excursions to close to one's max heart rate, followed by recovery, then repeating. This is fairly intense so usually rest days are incorporated. Progress over a period of ~ weeks can be discerned. However individuals can easily see improvements in their cardio capacity just by repeating intense and sustained workouts and seeing how their times improve. I do a 32 mile bicycle ride in a 10-mile loop and I have seen my times improve from 2.0 hours to 1.75 hours as my fitness improves. As for the Apple watch VO2 MAX metric, I started daily bicycle rides back in December 2025 and the VO2 MAX reported from my Series 11 was ~ 30 one year ago. Now, a year later, it is 43, which is high for my age range (60+). I don't know if I believe the absolute number but I do believe the trend. That 43 number has stayed consistent since June 2026 through multiple watch OS updates and an upgrade (to 27).
Since I’ve been using upgraded to series 12, the VOX2 max is around 20. This is not a problem with my workouts. It’s a problem with this watch.
Since the watch is using ONLY heart rate, distance covered, and time, if there is a problem with the watch, it has to be one of those three things. They are easy to check, especially distance and time. Heart rate has to be measured accurately and continuously during the workout for the algorithm to work, and you can check that your pulse is being properly recorded as well. If not, you should revisit the fit and band you are using. When people say their VO2 MAX changed unreasonably after changing to a new model of watch, I always suspect that the new watch might not fit as well, perhaps due to the band, but also sometimes due to the watch size itself and how the different model fits to and sits on the user's arm/wrist. If the heart rate sensor is actually broken, that can be easily checked by an Apple Authorized Service Provider.
In the Health app I clearly see an immediate decline from one day to the next one. The decline started the first day wearing the new watch.
That might indicate inconsistencies in measurement of one of those three quantities.
this is not a health problem for me. This is a hardware, software problem that Apple has on this watch.
One can blame the messenger for news one doesn't like. But unless one of those three items (pulse, distance, time) is being measured wrongly, it's hard to point to the Apple watch here.