Since installing Golden Gate, Finder isn't working

การสั่ง Rebuild (สร้างใหม่) Spotlight Index บน Mac สามารถทำได้ 2 วิธีหลักๆ ดังนี้ครับ

### วิธีที่ 1: ทำผ่าน System Settings (ง่ายและปลอดภัย)

1. ไปที่ **Apple Menu ()** > **System Settings** (การตั้งค่าระบบ)

2. เลือก **Siri & Spotlight** จากเมนูทางด้านซ้าย

3. เลื่อนลงไปที่ด้านล่างสุด แล้วคลิกปุ่ม **Spotlight Privacy** (ความเป็นส่วนตัว Spotlight)

4. คลิกปุ่ม **+** แล้วเลือกดิสก์หรือโฟลเดอร์ที่ต้องการ Rebuild (เช่น **Macintosh HD**) จากนั้นกด **Choose**

5. ในรายการความเป็นส่วนตัว ให้คลิกเลือกดิสก์หรือโฟลเดอร์ที่เพิ่งเพิ่มเข้าไป แล้วคลิกปุ่ม **-** เพื่อลบออก

6. กด **Done**

*เมื่อลบออกแล้ว ระบบ Spotlight จะเริ่มทำการสแกนและจัดดัชนี (Reindex) ไฟล์ในดิสก์หรือโฟลเดอร์นั้นใหม่อีกครั้งโดยอัตโนมัติ*

### วิธีที่ 2: ทำผ่าน Terminal (สำหรับกรณีที่ระบบมีปัญหารุนแรง)

หากวิธีแรกไม่ได้ผล สามารถใช้คำสั่งใน Terminal เพื่อลบและเปิดการ reindex ใหม่ได้ทันที:

1. เปิดแอป **Terminal** (หาได้จาก Spotlight หรือใน folder Applications > Utilities)

2. คัดลอกและวางคำสั่งด้านล่างนี้ลงใน Terminal แล้วกด **Enter**:

```bash

sudo mdutil -X /; sudo mdutil -i on /

```

3. ระบบจะถามรหัสผ่านของเครื่อง ให้พิมพ์รหัสผ่านแล้วกด **Enter** *(ขณะพิมพ์รหัสผ่านจะไม่แสดงตัวอักษรใดๆ บนหน้าจอ)*

> **หมายเหตุ:** กระบวนการ Reindex จะใช้เวลาสักพักใหญ่ขึ้นอยู่กับจำนวนไฟล์และความจุของดิสก์ โดยคุณสามารถกด Command + Spacebar เพื่อดูสถานะการทำงานของ Spotlight ได้ว่ากำลัง Indexing อยู่หรือไม่

>

To search for files on your Mac, you can start a search directly by opening Finder and using the shortcut Command-F. This instantly switches Finder into a powerful search mode.

Alternatively, you can just click into the search bar located in the top-right corner of any open Finder window. Click the magnifying glass icon to expand the field, then start typing.

You can also use Spotlight to find items on your Mac:

Search for anything with Spotlight on Mac - Apple Support

To search for files in Spotlight, you need to click the Files button to the right of the search window, or press Command-2. If you don't, it remains on the first choice and that's Applications.

Make sure that System Settings > Spotlight is set to show results from Documents and Folders.

If searching in Finder or Spotlight is not finding anything, then you may need to rebuild the Spotlight index for the above steps to work properly.

Rebuild the Spotlight index on your Mac - Apple Support

If that doesn’t work, Copy/Paste this into Terminal. sudo will ask for your password. Just type the password and hit return. It won't show anything on screen. Those two commands essentially nuke all the Spotlight records then force a reindex. You may need to restart or log out/in after running the commands.

sudo mdutil -X /; sudo mdutil -i on /

Spotlight re-indexes your Mac after a macOS update, and this process can take some time.

About Spotlight indexing and search results on Apple devices - Apple Support

mbh54 wrote:

Just curious why they did that? So "Find" is no longer an option. It always seemed easier to me to specify in Find by created date, file type, name, etc. You can search for a lot of things in Spotlight by actions, folders or applications, but it isn't as specific - unless I am missing something?

Possibly to focus attention on Spotlight, but 'we' are users like you and no one here can say why Apple does anything.

However, even though the menu item is gone from the File menu in Golden Gate, the functionality in Finder remains. When in Finder, press Command-F to bring up the Finder search window, complete with the folder restrictions, file type options, Boolean operators, etc.

Finder is always running, and it's always resident in the Dock. Click it, then click Command-F.

If that doesn't bring up the window in my screenshot, then yes some troubleshooting is definitely in order. Have you rebooted your Mac? If not, that's the first step. If that does not help, then see if the problem is present when you boot in safe mode. That process performs some system cleanup and clears caches, and also disables 3rd party extensions that may cause problems.

Start up your Mac in safe mode - Apple Support

If that does not correct the issue, test in a new user account. A newly-created user account will have all settings at default, and if the issue does not occur in that new account then it provides guidance on what may need to be changed to correct the issue.

Add a user or group on Mac - Apple Support

Once the testing is complete, the new account can easily be deleted.

Delete a user or group on Mac – Apple Support

Those steps will help to isolate the problem.

I have tried everything you suggested - created a new user, booted in safe mode, and yes, I shut my computer down at least once a day - usually more, so I have already done that probably 20 times since I installed Golden Gate. The first thing I try with any problem is to shut down/reopen or reboot. My computer does nothing with Command-F. When playing with Spotlight, I accidentally did something that made the parameters in Find show up. I started deleting some files that it found, closed the window, and now I can't get Spotlight to do it again, but I will figure that out. Evidently according to dialabrain, "Correct. "Find" has been removed from the File menu" so I am going to stop looking for it and do the best I can with Spotlight.

Thank you for trying!

mbh54 wrote:

Thank you for responding, but your response does not appear to be in English, so I can't read it.

You might be interested to know that macOS can translate foreign languages to English. Select the text in the above post, right-click and select Translate. Here’s the result...

Rebuild (rebuild) Spotlight Index on Mac can be done in 2 main ways as follows:

Method 1: Do it through System Settings (easy and safe)

1. Go to **Apple Menu ()** > **System Settings** (System Settings)

2. Choose **Siri & Spotlight** from the menu on the left.

3. Scroll down to the bottom and click the **Spotlight Privacy** button.

4. Click the **+** button and select the disk or folder you want to Rebuild (e.g. **Macintosh HD**) then press **Choose**.

5. In the Privacy list, click Select the newly added disk or folder, then click the **-** button to remove it.

6. Press **Done**

*Once deleted, Spotlight will automatically start scanning and reindexing the files on that disk or folder.*

Method 2: Do it through Terminal (for severe system problems)

If the first method does not work, you can use the command in Terminal to delete and open a new reindex immediately:

1. Open the **Terminal** app (available from Spotlight or in the Applications > Utilities folder)

2. Copy and paste the command below into Terminal and press **Enter**:

```bash

Sudo mdutil -X /; sudo mdutil -i on /

```

3. The system will ask for the device's password. Type the password and press **Enter** *(While typing the password, no characters will be displayed on the screen)*

> **Note:** The Reindex process will take a long time depending on the number of files and disk capacity. You can press Command + Spacebar to see the running status of Spotlight whether it is indexing or not.

>

The translate feature can also be used to translate English into a good number of foreign languages.

after upgrading to Golden Gate, my Finder behaved weird too, I force quit and restarted my Mac for several times, but did not work. until I deleted some apps and large files to free up space on the device, Finder came back to be normal. I am not sure if this works in your case, but it worked for me. you should check the free space on your Mac, if it is low, it might be the reason.

On another thread there is a status telltale command for Terminal. It did not work for me, so I adjusted parameters and got (with no guarantee it is accurate or useful):

log show --last 15m --info \

--predicate 'process=="mds"' 2>/dev/null |

tail -1 |

sed -E 's/.*overallCompleteness: ([0-9.]+), sufficientlyCompleteThreshold: ([0-9.]+), isSufficientlyComplete: ([^,]+), donationCompleteness: Optional\(([0-9.]+)\), pipelineCompleteness: Optional\(([0-9.]+)\).*pipelineReportAge: ([0-9.]+).*/\1 \2 \3 \4 \5 \6/' |

awk '{

status = ($3 == "true") ? "Ready" : "Still processing"

printf "%-30s %5.1f%% — %s (%.1f%% required)\n",

"Search readiness:", $1/100, status, $20

printf "%-30s %5.1f%%\n", "Search pipeline processed:", $5/10000

printf "%-30s %.1f hours\n", "Report age:", $6/3600

}'

sudo mdutil -X /; sudo mdutil -i on /

Shoudl work but I didn't have much luck. Instead of went to Spotlight, Privacy, then put my hard drive on it, then rebooted, then removed my hard drive.

mbh54 wrote:

Just curious why they did that? So "Find" is no longer an option. It always seemed easier to me to specify in Find by created date, file type, name, etc. You can search for a lot of things in Spotlight by actions, folders or applications, but it isn't as specific - unless I am missing something?

You can provide Apple with feedback here just in case it is an actual bug (seems hard to imagine, but who knows these days):

Feedback - macOS - Apple

Correct. "Find" has been removed from the File menu.

I appreciate your response, but I don't think I explained my question very well. I understand that I can also use Spotlight, but I prefer Finder, and I would like to get it back if possible. When I use Spotlight to search for Finder, it comes up and says "Finder app open", but it won't open because it is in a System folder. It still shows on upper left of my desktop, but under the drop down menu for "File", there is no longer a "Find" option towards the bottom. The Spotlight app is find, and I have rebuilt it before, but that isn't what I need/am asking for. Sorry for the confusion.

Any other suggestions? Thank you!

Just curious why they did that? So "Find" is no longer an option. It always seemed easier to me to specify in Find by created date, file type, name, etc. You can search for a lot of things in Spotlight by actions, folders or applications, but it isn't as specific - unless I am missing something?

mbh54 wrote:

Thank you for responding, but your response does not appear to be in English, so I can't read it.

The reply in question is a Thai-language copy-paste from an AI-generated response to your question. The poster seems to be visiting random threads and doing the same. As with any AI-generated response, be cautious – LLMs are notorious for generating slop 'solutions'.

Thanks for responding again, but I thought I explained that I can't get "In Finder", so I can't open it and press Command F at the same time. The drop down menus disappear when I let go. I'm not sure I am actually "in" Finder. I tried Command F, but all I could do was add the icon to the sidebar. When I click on the Icon, nothing happens to the options. Maybe I don't have enough fingers or I am doing something wrong? I can create folders, get info, view some items, use writing tools, etc, but I can't search. The Go menu works the same as it always did, but I can't get into anything that looks like the screenshot you posted above. Would it help to boot in Safe Mode? I could try that.

Thank you for responding. I have been deleting everything I can do without - I have a 250 GB drive. I have about 66GB of free space. The largest segments taking up storage are "System data - 44 GB" and MacOS 28.83 GB - there is not much I can do about either of those. The next largest category is "documents", but I don't use the documents folder - I have docs in folders by what they are for. I did accidentally find a way to get to the window I wanted that was originally under "Find". I got to it through Spotlight searching for Documents, and then I did something else. The only problem is I started deleting some duplicate files (evidently, "documents" includes .mov, jpg, GIF, png, etc.), and now I forgot how I got there, but I should be able to figure that out since I did it once before. Deleting files isn't making Find show up, but I appreciate your help.

66 GB should be enough. System data, you may have extra stuff in Books you don't need, or old movies you don't want, or ancient phone backups ... all of that is in there. I use OmniDiskSweeper from time to time, delete obsolete or unused programs, etc. That helps, if you ever want to clean up more, but 66 GB should more than enough for Spotlight to run.

They did make a lot of changes to it and I think it's buggy. I've tried Terminal commands. It sorta works for some files but not most, and I can't seem to get it to update or start over. I'll try the "start with the shift key down" trick next.

I use the venerable program Find Any File in the meantime. It's free, been around forever and seems trustworthy, works very quickly, and can be customized. Written by Thomas Templemann since 2005! https://findanyfile.app/

Thank you for responding, but your response does not appear to be in English, so I can't read it.

Can't read that language. Thanks anyway

No harm done since I can't read what the solution is. I only responded to be polite.

Just ignore that. It doesn't work. Sorry. I'd delete it if I could!

I can't read this , so I can't comment on whether it was helpful or not. Thanks for trying.

Thank you. I will check out the Findanyfile app. Sounds helpful!

Appreciate the response.

OK. Thanks!

Thank you. Might try that. Got caught up with other stuff, but i appreciate your response.

Just tried Find Any File, and I was amazed at how fast and accurate it was. Thanks.

Delete what?

Thanks, but I really don't want to translate that. I have gotten plenty of good response in English; however, I will keep it in mind next time I want to translate something.